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The Imagination Desk is an occasional audio series from the Center for Science and the Imagination at Arizona State University. We chat with artists, scholars, scientists, and technologists about what inspires them and how they define and use imagination in their work.

Oct 3, 2023

In this episode of Griots & Galaxies, Jenna & Chinelo sit down with author and editor Wole Talabi. In this conversation, Wole speaks about gods going on heists and how technologies hold the potential to bring us together in alternative histories and imagined futures.  


Wole Talabi is an engineer, writer, and editor from Nigeria. He is the author of the novel SHIGIDI AND THE BRASS HEAD OF OBALUFON. His short fiction has appeared in places like Asimov’s Science Fiction, Lightspeed Magazine, and is collected in the books CONVERGENCE PROBLEMS and INCOMPLETE SOLUTIONS. He has been a finalist for the Hugo, Nebula, Locus and Nommo awards, as well as the Caine Prize for African Writing and the Sidewise Award for Alternate History. He has edited five anthologies including a 2-volume translation anthology in Bengali, the acclaimed AFRICANFUTURISM: AN ANTHOLOGY and the forthcoming MOTHERSOUND: THE SAUÚTIVERSE ANTHOLOGY. He likes scuba diving, elegant equations, and oddly shaped things. He currently lives and works in Malaysia. Find him at and at @wtalabi on Twitter, Instagram, Bluesky and Tiktok.


Griots & Galaxies is produced by the Center for Science and the Imagination, with support from the Institute for Humanities Research and The Transformation Project, all at Arizona State University. The podcast is created and hosted by Jenna Hanchey, Yvette Lisa Ndlovu, and Chinelo Onwualu, with the assistance of sound engineer Bailey Pyritz. The theme music is performed by Sonja Branch and Dethie Sarr Diouf.